Transcription: It's very organic the way I started to get involved with movies. I was working in the theater, someone saw me in the theater, I made a low budget movie. This woman saw the low budget movie at Film X, I think in 1981 or something, called me up, looked me up in the telephone book, I was in the New York telephone book, called me up, said, would you like to do some more of this? I think I can help you out. And we started, you know, looking for work and we got some. I don't want to make it sound simple, but I mean, you know, it wasn't like, yeah, I wasn't groomed. Weirdness is not my game. I'm just ...